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Strange sensation
« on: March 27, 2012, 05:27:58 am »
Hi,

I'm a few days from finishing level 1 and I'd like to share something that has been happening to me. Every day multiple times per day I am experiencing an intense heat sensation in my middle chest area..
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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 07:46:01 am »
Hi Nzakeral,

I can't really comment on the energy/heat sensation you've been experiencing without going into the area of blind speculation. I don't believe anyone other than yourself can give you a definitive explanation. And that's the challenge...

It's all too common that when face with nebulous and vague conditions that impact our life, that we scramble for an outside explanation, or look to an "authority" to define the problem for us. The mainframe of society does not engender self-trust, and as a result of our inner distrust, we have a tendency to sometimes mistrust everything around us, looking for something to "blame".

I'm going to say flat out that I don't believe energy/heat sensations felt in the body causes relationships to "fall apart" in a person's life, and that the answer to your experience can be found in a close examination of your personal beliefs and behavior. But to "get" that answer, you need to trust yourself.

I hope this helps,

Robert

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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 09:37:00 pm »
Thanks
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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 09:23:10 am »
Hello Nazkeral,
You are very welcome to the forum.
Initially I didn't respond to your post as I wanted time to think. I have a few suggestions to make - they work for me, and I have no reason to believe they won't for you. Also my writing this down will clarify (simplify) things for me, and if it also brings you to a resolution, well, two of us have been served.

Bear in mind I am just a fellow human being. Writing out of a desire to help us all one step further along the path so we can all walk in warmth and sunlight. I am not an expert, just a BrainEv user, who has benefitted exponentially from the entrainment, so note also that I am very, very positively biased.

I am going to address your 'problem' from three perspectives:
1) finding tangled wires and sending in a qualified electrician (you, the Human) to prune out the old and faulty circuits that are making you run 20 times around the track instead of direct from A to B.
2) A Chimp and Human metaphor to help you clearly see when you (the Human) are in control, and when your inner Chimp is running riot and thereby muddying the waters and putting both you and Chimp in a spin.
3) A BrainEv perspective which translates faulty wiring and Chimp/Human behaviour into brainwave frequencies. Faulty wiring and Chimp antics produce beta-frazzle. If you look at EEG readings of beta-frazzle (my expression to describe me at my most ineffective), you will see rapid high amplitude, high frequency scribblings much like a seismograph recording a severe earthquake. BrainEv introduces a whole symphony of frequencies across 6 months, and I have found these to be healing - my beta frazzle is reduced to minor sporadic outbursts - exceedingly rare.

OK. If you agree to join me lets look at the Chimp/Human metaphor first. The metaphor isn't mine. It comes from a book by psychiatrist Dr Steve Peters called "The Chimp Paradox: the mind management programme for confidence, success and happiness".

The Chimp: Peters encourages us to see the chimp just as they live in the jungle. Loud, raucous, domineering, and they travel in groups. To survive they need to be part of the troupe - any threat of exclusion gets the Chimp in total beta-frazzle, i.e. panic-mode, fight to survive. So the Chimp is not an intellectual. He's a see-the-danger-and-run-away kind of guy = survival, but through brutish means. Now think of a troupe of chimps high in the jungle canopy, and one spots a jaguar far below on the forest floor. What happens? Shouting, screaming, rushing to and fro, threatening, panicking, but lots and lots of uncoordinated thoughts and physical activity. Agreed? So the function of the Chimp is to see threats and alert us to them - Chimps are there to help. However they are NOT good problem-solvers (fortunately we have a Human to do the thinking for us). Also bear in mind a Chimp is 5x stronger than a Human, so it is easy for the Chimp to dominate the Human.

The Human: The Human is a remarkable kind of guy. He's a thinker, an analyst, a genuine problem-solver. He is creative, a fast learner, skilled, but his critical, analytical thinking takes 5 times longer than the Chimp's simplistic thinking, so the Chimp always arrives at a solution faster (often an inadequate solution = avoid it, so hide, run away or attack being three favorite strategies). Given the right tools Human can achieve anything. The right tools are critical to Human's performance. If he has been messed up by unskilled electricians (his inner Chimp or members of his troupe) his wiring is going to be extremely haphazard and ineffective. Some idiot (perhaps even the Chimp) may have installed software that is so full of bugs that even when Human is using his intelligence, he consistently arrives at wrong conclusions. The Human often doesn't distinguish between Human behaviour and Chimp behaviour: however the Human is extremely intelligent, and once he sees the Chimp in action, this metaphor becomes a vital tool in harnessing the Chimp, soothing him down, and thus allowing the Human to take over the important, executive thinking and problem-solving. The Human is grateful to the Chimp for pointing out that there is a jaguar on the forest floor, but the Human knows that jaguars cannot fly, and nor do they roam about on the canopy, so really the jaguar - while it is on the ground far from the chimp - poses NO threat.

Nzakeral, if this Chimp Human metaphor speaks to you - then do not delay, go and buy the book. It is funny, and I found it made total sense of the more unhelpful aspects of my behaviour and others!!!! So this is your first tool on the road to freedom. You want to put your Chimp on 'calm', and start to utilise the mental giant of your Human. The jaguar (your over-heating issue) does not affect your ability to relate to other people (as Robert has already pointed out), but your Chimp makes cognitive thinking errors, and seems to be running your show, jaguar/over-heating + women = no win. Change that faulty wiring!!!


As your Human is very smart, you need to supply real data - the new software program to replace all that loopy wiring the Chimp is currently using - to your detriment. The software you require is knowledge (not superstition!). So get yourself checked out by a doctor. What is this over-heating syndrome? What causes it? Why you? What treatment and cures? Get a name for it. ..... Imagine if in a few days, when you have ripped the faulty Chimp wiring, and got a proper 'concept' of what this over-heating vasilo-dilator thing-y is (= installed an appropriate software program to run pertaining to over-heating), your Human can say perhaps something on the lines of...."I know this X (over-heating) phenomenon is pretty special. It alerts me to unique parts of my inner-being. When I over-heat I know I am quite safe, but my system is trying to tell me something. I am fascinated to find out what X is telling me. I will work with it, a team, me and my body in total cooperation. Best of all, I know that when I over-heat I am no longer run by my Chimp (who used to run scary fantasy scenarios all with a bad ending). Now my Human recognises X as my personal signature alarm, and I can behave in a manner which best serves my long-term plans even while I over-heat!"

Wiring Issue.
I am on BrainEv round 2 (level 4) and it is just a fabulous the second time round. I spent most of my life in a state of beta-frazzle prior to BrainEv. Literally my Chimp was standing on the highest branches screaming at me, warning me of every possible - and impossible - danger. In fact my Chimp was so loud that I couldn't hear my Human. BrainEv inputted other brainwave frequencies and gave my poor brain an urgently needed taste of other brainstates beyond anxiety, worry and fear.

At this point I know that my brain is working better and more effectively. I seem to be harnessing my right brain much more these days. So I like to think in pictures - which is why the metaphore stuff serves me so well. One picture really is worth a thousand words. To drive the faulty wiring metaphore home, I went onto Google images and searched under 'tangled wires'. Have a look. You will be delighted at the nightmare wiring scenarios that brilliant photographers and passing tourists have posted for our pure 'tangled wires' oogling pleasure. I printed a few out. When my Chimp starts screeching, I look at that maze of loops going nowhere, and LISTEN CAREFULLY TO EXACTLY WHAT MY CHIMP IS TELLING ME. I write it down. Most of what my Chimp says is inaccurate stuff. My Chimp is doing a great job of spotting the problem and sending up red flags. But, honestly, I now see the solutions my Chimp provides are not in my highest interests.

[At this point you can switch straight to your two posts above. What is your Chimp saying? I don't want to interpret this for you (this is your Human's task), however just to get the ball rolling, here is a start. The Chimp gets extremely agitated when you over-heat. Pure panic mode. You Chimp informs you - based on past experience (which has also been misinterpreted) - that when you over-heat around women, sisters and friends, they vamoose. Your Chimp concludes that this over-heating business is lethal to your pulling power around women. One simple Chimp solution: kill the over-heating. Now. Chimp is convinced that stopping over-heating will solve everything.

Fortunately, if you read between the lines of your posts, the Human is at work too. It wants to help solve the over-heating riddle but the software is not there to deliver the vital stats required to make an intelligent problem-solving strategy. Your Human is using the few resources on hand to make life better for you. Buying and using BrainEv is one example (yes, you need that brainwave-enhancement software package for whole-brain thinking). Posting on the forum is another Human attempt to solve a tricky problem (yes, you may get ideas here from others, which also puts missing pieces of software into the puzzle).

However your Chimp is sooooooo loud. It is in such a flap. Simplistic as it is, remember the purpose of the Chimp is just to save you from danger by hiding, running or attacking - just a front-line defence. There is no long-term Human strategy here. Spot the problem and create total havoc until the jaguar is gone. My take on your number analogy is this is Chimp logic. Why? The Chimp noticed that over-heating (which appears to be a big threat to survival) has occurred at 11.10. A snap Chimp decision. Over-heating and the numbers 10 and 11 are connected. Dammit they are. Now Chimp goes a clever mile further, it warns you everytime a 1 or a 0 are on the clock. Beware of over-heating at 1 o'clock, one minute past one, one minute past two. Just imagine what could happen at 11.11????? Total spontaneous combusion???? You had better go and kill the clock!!! Then it can't show the digits 11.11, or should that be 10.10? ]

This may appear as if I am ridiculing you, Nzakeral. Believe me, I'm not. I am speaking from pure experience. Once I read this book I could see the Chimp in action in other people. My daughter is stressed by exams and future career decisions.... it is amazing to observe how her Chimp is very very concerned about her survival in this situation. My mother has Alzheimers and I regularly get thumped about by her Chimp. The real shift began when I started to spot my Chimp - and simultaneously realise I AM NOT THAT CHIMP. I can choose to calm the Chimp, see what danger it is alerting me to, reason with my Chimp, and then use my Human brain to plot a reasonable course of action based on reliable, appropriate software.

The Finale. BrainEv.
As  a user I can clearly state that BrainEv has been pivotal in turning down the volume of the Chimp screeching - or beta-frazzle. I used to be plagued by insomnia. Sleep time became a special time when my Chimp pulled every possible fear and anxiety out of its big box of Fear toys. Nowadays I sleep much more. And when I don't sleep, there is no beta-frazzle (crazy-making brainwave frequencies that focus on the problem again and again - yes there is a problem, lots of problems BUT never calmly focusing on a solution). Now I seem to be awake, doze, wake, doze and I remember my thoughts and dreams..... and you know what, I feel whole-brained. Suddenly I can hear and understand what my sub/unconscious has stored within. I can add a little alpha (the brainwave frequencies we produce between wake and sleep) and make links, I am filling in bits of the jogsaw puzzle. When I actually listen to myself (the Chimp, the Human and just me) I find all sorts of body sensations (not over-heating yet, but real pain, twitches, fear-pain etc) and I release them by EFT tapping. I listen and accept, I listen more and hear/accept. And eventually I get to the core of it - never anything upsetting or dramatic as our Chimp would have us believe - and then I sleep  - I really sleep well.

A long, long post.
If it speaks to you go and get "Chimp Paradox". Read it (it really is fun and well written). You could order "Gamma Healing" which is were I found the tapping technique to rid myself of emotional and physical energy that no longer served (cutting out the old wiring circuits). The same book gives a method for imprinting new beliefs - the software your Human needs. As does Chimp book. And listen to BrainEv..... see it as a vast symphony playing, habituating your brain to every possible nuance of brainwave frequency. I only played one CD, the Beta-Frazzle one. My reperatoire of available actions were just three: hide, flee or attack. But the Human knows life is richer than that by far. There are many many solutions to every challenge, and exploring those solutions becomes so fascinating, so rewarding, so empowering...... yes, well I could go on for ever. But I won't.

Now the decision is yours. What are you going to do to make friends with and harness the language of over-heating (you need a Human brain and new software for that)? And will you let BrainEv open the doors to a symphony of sounds and music genres rather than just listening to a couple of outdated CSs? And how about listening to your Chimp, understanding him (but recognise his very limited intellectual powers), but free up your Human, for there lies a multitude of joy, fun and adventure in putting all those scattered bits of the puzzle that is your life into one masterpiece?

I wish you an amazing journey, a real round-the-world, inter-galactic trip. You will love it. Buy the Chimp Paradox and fasten your seat belt - remember you need ear plugs to listen to BrainEv once a day when you are calm (do not do this in a Beta-Frazzle mind-state!). Bon voyage, Pure Bliss

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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 04:41:10 pm »
That was a brilliant post, Pure Bliss. Amazingly genius! Reading the whole post sparked so many insights. I am awed and grateful for the time and energy you put in to lend support to us all.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 09:42:46 pm »
Wonderful advice. Your posts are a  source of much help and guidance.
Thanks Pure Bliss

Nick
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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2012, 02:02:43 am »
Thanks for the thorough reply I shall take that on board ;)

Were you serious about going to see a Doctor? I haven't considered going because I thought It would be out of their area of expertise.. I can't even find any info online about this lol.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2012, 07:47:35 am »
Hello again Nzakeral,

Of course I'm serious about going to a doctor, though ultimately it is your choice where you access the information so your Chimp stops terrifying you everytime this sensation occurs. The point of going to a doctor is to determine whether this is physiological, (so do you treat it or learn to live with it), or is it 'all in the head' (so do you treat it or learn to live with it). View your trip to the doctor as a data collection exercise.

As I see it, you struggle with this phenomenon because you don't understand it. Not understanding causes you to fear it. Fearing it creates resistance. And the whole thing becomes a panic scenario made all the worse because the Chimp sets up such a clamour in your head that the Human cannot reason. To reason your Human needs INFORMATION, first and foremost. Right now it has no data to work on, so it cannot explain the phenomenon, so it obeys the Chimp, who as a non-thinker wants away from the whole problem. But we all know that running away from problems doesn't solve them, don't we?

Another line of inquiry (to give your Human more data) would be to 'stay with the phenomenon' next time it occurs. If it happens during BrainEv, just OBSERVE everything as it unfolds. Get data. Where does it start? Is it more intense at the beginning, the middle, the end? Where exactly are the sensations? Where do you feel the sensations? When you let go of panic and resistance, what happens? The object of this exercise is to separate yourself from all the panic conclusions the Chimp has fed you (you are NOT a CHIMP). The Chimp is a worst-case-scenario kind of guy - he doesn't deal in good outcomes. Your Human brain is much smarter. Given adequate data he can start to calm the Chimp by feeding it real facts.

 BrainEv is one piece of the puzzle. Robert has already told you that this phenomenon doesn't play a role in attracting women or having friendships, another piece for your Human to work with. You have had quite a few 'episodes' and survived them all, so it looks as if they aren't lethal, a third piece of the puzzle already. The doctor may supply more pieces. Calm observation will allow you to look the beast in the eye - what if you are running away from an ant? I wish you a speedy and life-affirming outcome to this masterpiece which is your life.

Here is to perfect outcomes for you! Pure Bliss
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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2012, 08:43:41 am »
Ahhh, Nick and Robert!

Where would I be without you guys? Really! Writing these posts does take ages, and if I wrote into a void I would soon give up and just put it in my journal.

I got the idea of "missing data" from Eureka! Enigma. If data is missing we don't have enough real data to be effective at anything. So missing data accounts for failure more than any of us is ever aware.

The Chimp Paradox was written by a genius. There is such a wealth of good advice in there. I was wowed by his page on setting boundaries. Sadly I have kept my boundaries too open (missing data was that chimps from maurauding troupes are NOT loyal to my band, but serve their own), and have found myself violated often enough. Ever heard of the importance of saying a clear 'No', and meaning it? Chimp book supplied some missing data on boundaries that will make all the difference to me. Now I just have to implement it.

I resolved a real Chimp-think+boundary problem. Mum was in holy war with me over a conversation that literally never took place. She was furious. Using the Chimp book data I could observe my own Chimp getting upset, feeling aggrieved at her false claims, getting hurt, getting angry, and above all..... losing 90% of my energy to this nonsense. No more. I set a boundary. I told her - calmly - I was not prepared to fight over something that had not happened. Full stop. Within 30 mins she was absolutely normal. She accepted my boundary/limit. Otherwise I would have had to put up with aggression and sulking for days - plus she would have obsessed long enough to make the ficticious event real.

As always, thank you for responding. It validates my personal effort to make progress in the right direction. Wish you both exponential progress too..... hugs, Pure Bliss

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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 01:12:34 pm »
nzakeral, hello.
While I do not discount anything that has been said thus far, I seem to see a point that has been overlooked.

Do you know anything about the chakra system? You say the heat begins in the heart area and spreads from there. You also, instinctively or not, relate it to your relationships. The heart chakra  I am thinking it could be caused by a difficulty in the heart chakra area. I recall Pure Bliss wrote about how to cleanse and charge chakras in another post on the forum. You might want to find that and try it as well.

Just a thought
Dreamer
The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple. - Oscar Wilde

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Re: Heat sensation in chest area
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 07:13:14 pm »
Hi All, Pure Bliss,

As always, you never cease to amaze me Pure Bliss, its always alot of interest and intrigue on the stuff you post, here in the forum.  I believe, alot of people could learn to understand by your experience from the BrainEv. For me, its one step at a time. I'm not in a hurry, but seek calmness by being patient.. 

Take care...

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 09:26:56 pm »
nzakeral, hello.
While I do not discount anything that has been said thus far, I seem to see a point that has been overlooked.

Do you know anything about the chakra system? You say the heat begins in the heart area and spreads from there. You also, instinctively or not, relate it to your relationships. The heart chakra  I am thinking it could be caused by a difficulty in the heart chakra area. I recall Pure Bliss wrote about how to cleanse and charge chakras in another post on the forum. You might want to find that and try it as well.

Just a thought
Dreamer

Yep I know all about the Chakra system, the only forms of balancing I have tried is by using binaural beats.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 11:34:15 pm »
Hi Nzakeral,

Just to put your mind at ease, Ennora produces effective and astounding mp3s. I happen to know the two guys who make the products, Peter and Mark, and they're just a couple of very smart men who didn't like what was currently available at the time in audio entrainment on the internet, so after a lot of hard work and a few years of research, they designed their own.

I use their products on a regular basis, and it's been a wonderful compliment to my BrainEv experience.

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 12:17:37 am »
Hi Nzakeral,

Just to put your mind at ease, Ennora produces effective and astounding mp3s. I happen to know the two guys who make the products, Peter and Mark, and they're just a couple of very smart men who didn't like what was currently available at the time in audio entrainment on the internet, so after a lot of hard work and a few years of research, they designed their own.

I use their products on a regular basis, and it's been a wonderful compliment to my BrainEv experience.

Nice to hear, I have purchased all of their binaural beats. I haven't been using any lately since I read to not to use other forms of audio entrainment while on the BrainEV program. Nice to see you got some results combining the two ;)

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 12:22:17 am »
Two more lvl 1 sessions and I'll be onto lvl 2 yay. I have noticed some positive effects from lvl 1, in the beginning my mind would start wandering half way through and I was finding it hard to stay focused and would get really tired. Now I can easily finish the 30 minutes and actually want to keep going! Time goes so fast during it now too last night it felt like all of 5mins had passed. ;)

 





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